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treloarPM
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I really hate bots...
Aug 21, 2014 12:54 AM
[DC]Treloar Member - Joined: Dec 02, 2013
Posts: 130
The last two maps I played on the server I was killed not by the monsters but by the bots, by redeemer both times.

Can you make it so none of the bots are wep masters or can pickup redeemers, if you cannot do the latter can you put on a mut to remove redeemers altogether?
dragon7350PM
#2
Aug 21, 2014 1:35 AM
Dragon7350 Member - Joined: Oct 11, 2013
Posts: 152
Bot team-killing happens when bots die when their redeemer shot is still in the air. When the redeemer explodes, it hurts everyone.

I haven't had much problems with the bots killing me personally, but I agree that they shouldn't have any superweapons... just to avoid the problem altogether.

I guess we would have to stop the bots from choosing to buy the required loaded weapons level that gives superweapons. Might mean resetting the bots. Maybe not.

jefejefejefePM
#3
Aug 21, 2014 7:10 AM
Jefe Co-Owner - Joined: Jul 05, 2010
Posts: 410
None of the invasion bots are weapon masters. The only time they'll have a super weapon is when they happen to pick one up in the level, and in general they won't unless it is particularly easy to get to.

Removing redeemers from the game is not an option. They are far too useful. Forbidding bots from picking them up, is possible, I suppose, but I don't know how to make them do that, and it's pretty rare for them to team kill this way.
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dragon7350PM
#4
Aug 21, 2014 4:46 PM
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Hollogom!

treloarPM
#5
Aug 31, 2014 4:41 AM
[DC]Treloar Member - Joined: Dec 02, 2013
Posts: 130
jefejefejefe wrote:
None of the invasion bots are weapon masters. The only time they'll have a super weapon is when they happen to pick one up in the level, and in general they won't unless it is particularly easy to get to.

Removing redeemers from the game is not an option. They are far too useful. Forbidding bots from picking them up, is possible, I suppose, but I don't know how to make them do that, and it's pretty rare for them to team kill this way.


I've seen bots as wep master and general class with redeemer.

Another thing I dislike is joining the server for a good map only to not be able to play because the bots are blocking the server.


jefejefejefePM
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Aug 31, 2014 12:54 PM
Jefe Co-Owner - Joined: Jul 05, 2010
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treloar wrote:


I've seen bots as wep master and general class with redeemer.

Another thing I dislike is joining the server for a good map only to not be able to play because the bots are blocking the server.



There was a couple of the "copy" bots (Duce, Saladin, etc.) that were weapon masters, I changed them to other classes a couple of days ago. One of the weird things about bots is the class restrictions on what they can or cannot buy doesn't apply; they can buy skills from other classes, or buy higher levels of things like loaded weapons. A long time ago I gave them preconfigured skillsets with more than they could buy (level 80 bots with skills from a level 120 character) but a few of them might have leveled up high enough that they could buy skills on their own again. I just adjusted all the levels of all main bots back down for that reason.

What do you mean by blocking the server?
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treloarPM
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Aug 31, 2014 3:32 PM
[DC]Treloar Member - Joined: Dec 02, 2013
Posts: 130
Look at the image I posted, the titan will not despawn and the bot will not attack.

So I cannot get on to play, even with multiple reconnects, cannot tell the bot to attack even cause I have to be alive to do so.

Time elapsed to almost 3 hours should tell you what I mean by blocked, eventually the server realises there is a problem and falls over and goes to another map (after many hours sometimes days), which means the map I joined for I miss out on.
jefejefejefePM
#8
Sep 01, 2014 4:00 PM
Jefe Co-Owner - Joined: Jul 05, 2010
Posts: 410
That usually only happens when the bots are told to hold position. If you are able to spawn, order them to search and destroy. Otherwise, a few reconnects usually work so that the live bot gets evicted.
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dc_demonslayerPM
#9
Sep 01, 2014 9:10 PM
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how do you order the bots?
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ton80PM
#10
Sep 02, 2014 1:34 PM
[DC]TON80 Moderator - Joined: Aug 18, 2008
Posts: 19
Press V for the Speech Menu
Press 4 for the Order Menu

1 = Defend The Base
2 = Hold This Position
3 = Attack The Base
4 = Cover Me
5 = Search & Destroy

After you choose an order the menu automatically changes to the player selection menu. You can choose to apply the order to all bots or any individual bot.

1 = All
2 = Blackjack
3 = Jacob
4 - Anika

For example, V451 would order all bots to search and destroy, and V422 would order Blackjack to hold the position you are currently standing in.
Last edited by: ton80 Sep 02, 2014 1:48 PM
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